Comments for Brewed Fresh Daily http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com Locally owned and operated from Cleveland, OH since 2002 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:05:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2188 Ed Morrison Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:21:40 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2188 Here's another article on the situation in Pittsburgh: <blockquote> The center opened almost five years ago and is much larger than its predecessor. But in only one year has attendance been higher than in the last full year the old center was open. The new center also hasn't hosted more events in a given year than the old center. </blockquote> <a href="//www.wpxi.com/news/17579668/detail.html”">Read more</a>. Here’s another article on the situation in Pittsburgh:

The center opened almost five years ago and is much larger than its predecessor. But in only one year has attendance been higher than in the last full year the old center was open. The new center also hasn’t hosted more events in a given year than the old center.

Read more.

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by John Ettorre http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2187 John Ettorre Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:46:09 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2187 Jonathan, calling it an "emblem of city pride" is utterly at war with the thrust of my comments that it's simply a piece of essential civic infrastructure, like a regional airport or bus system. If we want to stay a vibrant city, we simply have to do it in some form. Just like we have find a way to build and repair roads if we want commerce to move and thus the economy to prosper. I would have voted for the half-percent county sales tax increase on that basis. Jonathan, calling it an “emblem of city pride” is utterly at war with the thrust of my comments that it’s simply a piece of essential civic infrastructure, like a regional airport or bus system. If we want to stay a vibrant city, we simply have to do it in some form. Just like we have find a way to build and repair roads if we want commerce to move and thus the economy to prosper. I would have voted for the half-percent county sales tax increase on that basis.

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by VincentPerricelli http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2186 VincentPerricelli Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:10:11 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2186 <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08277/917053-53.stm">Here</a> is a follow-up to the article Ed Morrison originally cited in the <i>Pittsburgh Post-Gazette</i>. <i>Crain's Cleveland</i> also has two relevant articles: 1) <a href="http://crainscleveland.com/article/20081003/BLOG01/810039969">One</a> notes the original <i>Post-Gazette</i> story. 2) The <a href="http://crainscleveland.com/article/20080922/FREE/309229927">second</a> includes a discussion of an MMPI analysis of the riverfront and the current convention center's site as possible locations for a new center. MMPI concluded that the two have "'comparable prices' [...] — meaning the company believes at this point that there is not a significant cost difference between the potential locations." Here is a follow-up to the article Ed Morrison originally cited in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Crain’s Cleveland also has two relevant articles:
1) One notes the original Post-Gazette story.
2) The second includes a discussion of an MMPI analysis of the riverfront and the current convention center’s site as possible locations for a new center. MMPI concluded that the two have “‘comparable prices’ [...] — meaning the company believes at this point that there is not a significant cost difference between the potential locations.”

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by Derek Arnold http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2185 Derek Arnold Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:37:26 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2185 Carole's right. We have considerable infrastructure issues. The most traveled bridge in Ohio is falling apart. That takes way more priority than the Convention Center. If you don't think so, you must not take the Innerbelt bridge. Carole’s right. We have considerable infrastructure issues.

The most traveled bridge in Ohio is falling apart. That takes way more priority than the Convention Center. If you don’t think so, you must not take the Innerbelt bridge.

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by J Murray http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2184 J Murray Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:43:52 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2184 John, okay, what is your plan for subsidizing a brand-new but money-losing convention center for the next decade? What other spending priorities should we sacrifice to have this emblem of civic pride? John, okay, what is your plan for subsidizing a brand-new but money-losing convention center for the next decade? What other spending priorities should we sacrifice to have this emblem of civic pride?

]]> Comment on Colinwood: One of America’s Best Secret Neighborhood by lmcshane http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/colinwood-one-of-americas-best-secret-neighborhood#comment-2183 lmcshane Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:16:01 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/colinwood-one-of-americas-best-secret-neighborhood#comment-2183 What does it take to get recognized in these magazines? Did the CDC go to bat for Collinwood? Detroit Shoreway is similarly praised in this month's Cleveland magazine as a rebounding neighborhood. http://tinyurl.com/3msx8s What does it take to get recognized in these magazines?
Did the CDC go to bat for Collinwood? Detroit Shoreway is similarly praised in this month’s Cleveland magazine as a rebounding neighborhood.
http://tinyurl.com/3msx8s

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2181 Ed Morrison Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:05:55 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2181 Sorry for the double post on the comments. The perils of posting late a night. Sorry for the double post on the comments. The perils of posting late a night.

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2180 Ed Morrison Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:04:55 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2180 Jonathan: I agree with your points, (although I am not as surprised as Mark). Tom: Downtown Indianapolis works. Downtown Cleveland is struggling. There's a big difference. The business and political leadership in Indianapolis understands the sophisticated dynamics of public-private partnerships. In my view, the business leadership in Cleveland does not grasp these dynamics. (Or, more accurately, ever since the Browns Stadium, the promising dynamics of partnership in Cleveland have gotten into trouble. Now, the dynamics for the past five years have been driven by efforts to rescue one unsuccessful project: Tower City with casinos, convention centers and an untested concept of a Medical Mart.) Turing to the schools, Indianapolis, like Cleveland, has a major dropout problem. The difference (a 31% versus 34% graduation rate) is immaterial. (See: See and http://snurl.com/42j7z for an overview. Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit and Baltimore all have graduation rates under 35%.) The real difference between Indianapolis and Cleveland is that the Indianapolis leadership is focused on an initiative to address the issue. See: http://snurl.com/42j96 for example. And the Chamber is engaged: See their drop out prevention initiative, Common Goal. http://snurl.com/42jb2 Unless I'm missing something, the Greater Cleveland Partnership has been spending its energies on real estate projects, casinos and convention centers. Big difference. Jonathan:

I agree with your points, (although I am not as surprised as Mark).

Tom:

Downtown Indianapolis works. Downtown Cleveland is struggling. There’s a big difference.

The business and political leadership in Indianapolis understands the sophisticated dynamics of public-private partnerships. In my view, the business leadership in Cleveland does not grasp these dynamics.

(Or, more accurately, ever since the Browns Stadium, the promising dynamics of partnership in Cleveland have gotten into trouble. Now, the dynamics for the past five years have been driven by efforts to rescue one unsuccessful project: Tower City with casinos, convention centers and an untested concept of a Medical Mart.)

Turing to the schools, Indianapolis, like Cleveland, has a major dropout problem. The difference (a 31% versus 34% graduation rate) is immaterial. (See: See and http://snurl.com/42j7z for an overview. Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit and Baltimore all have graduation rates under 35%.)

The real difference between Indianapolis and Cleveland is that the Indianapolis leadership is focused on an initiative to address the issue. See: http://snurl.com/42j96 for example. And the Chamber is engaged: See their drop out prevention initiative, Common Goal. http://snurl.com/42jb2

Unless I’m missing something, the Greater Cleveland Partnership has been spending its energies on real estate projects, casinos and convention centers.

Big difference.

]]> Comment on Save the Date post by michael feigenbaum http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/save-the-date-post#comment-2179 michael feigenbaum Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:10:27 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/save-the-date-post#comment-2179 GREED is GOOD never meant more and never had such effect on the country. i was taught to respect and admire successful people.i was taught to aspire to be like them. the wall st. people were and are still VERY well off. i have now learned i do not need to respect or admire these people because they are like common thieves but worse. they are criminals dressed up to look like admirable people.all the illusion has wrought is despair for millions of simple but honest people living out their lives oblivious to the real.maybe we should have taken the other pill. GREED is GOOD never meant more and never had such effect on the country. i was taught to respect and admire successful people.i was taught to aspire to be like them. the wall st. people were and are still VERY well off. i have now learned i do not need to respect or admire these people because they are like common thieves but worse. they are criminals dressed up to look like admirable people.all the illusion has wrought is despair for millions of simple but honest people living out their lives oblivious to the real.maybe we should have taken the other pill.

]]> Comment on Pittsburgh’s convention center continues to sink by Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/pittsburghs-convention-center-continues-to-sink#comment-2177 Ed Morrison Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:27:49 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/?p=277#comment-2177 Jonathan: I agree with your points. Tom: Downtown Indianapolis works. Downtown Cleveland is broken. Big difference. (Maybe the County Commission should be asking why, before they start committing $400 million.) On dropouts: Indianapolis has a higher rate, that's true. Detroit, Indy and Cleveland are at the bottom of the pack, among the 50 largest cities. This is a big problem: See Ed Week, the Gates Foundation, or Colin Powell's America's Promise: http://www.americaspromise.org Whether the graduation rate is 31% (Indy) or 34% (Cleveland) is immaterial. The big difference between Cleveland and Indy: The Indy chamber recognizes the issue and is focusing on it. (Common Goal, the Indianapolis Chamber’s high school graduation rate initiative: http://snurl.com/427sq ) I'm unaware of anything from the GCP that puts a priority on reducing drop-outs. Jonathan:

I agree with your points.

Tom:

Downtown Indianapolis works. Downtown Cleveland is broken. Big difference. (Maybe the County Commission should be asking why, before they start committing $400 million.)

On dropouts: Indianapolis has a higher rate, that’s true. Detroit, Indy and Cleveland are at the bottom of the pack, among the 50 largest cities. This is a big problem: See Ed Week, the Gates Foundation, or Colin Powell’s America’s Promise:

http://www.americaspromise.org

Whether the graduation rate is 31% (Indy) or 34% (Cleveland) is immaterial.

The big difference between Cleveland and Indy: The Indy chamber recognizes the issue and is focusing on it. (Common Goal, the Indianapolis Chamber’s high school graduation rate initiative: http://snurl.com/427sq )

I’m unaware of anything from the GCP that puts a priority on reducing drop-outs.

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