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		<title>By: J Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/obama-and-the-boomers/comment-page-1#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>J Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla, would that be the war that is won, resulting in a stabilizing, multi-cultural Iraq with a burgeoning democracy and a major defeat for the forces of evil respresented by Al Qaeda?

As to home prices, you have to look to Congress and their creation and expansion of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the causes of that problem. The stupid decisions leading up to the mortgage crisis have been underway for a couple of decades now, with pretty clear indications of the risks that were being introduced into the system and have now come to fruition. The best suggestion I have heard on this subject is to break up Fannie and Freddie and sell them in pieces to the private sector.

As to the woman you cite, I have no information about which to respond. Insurance is a contract into which parties enter. Contracts can be, and are, canceled all the time for all kinds of reasons. I&#039;ll speculate, without really knowing, that she probably reached the maximum total expenditure covered under the contract, which would have been one of the clauses in the agreement into which she willingly entered when she was healthy. I&#039;ll further speculate that she could have picked a different contract by paying a different premium.

Nowhere is it written that a business is forced to lose money in its contracts. 

Our healthcare financing system is broken, I&#039;ll give you that, but because of too much government, not too little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla, would that be the war that is won, resulting in a stabilizing, multi-cultural Iraq with a burgeoning democracy and a major defeat for the forces of evil respresented by Al Qaeda?</p>
<p>As to home prices, you have to look to Congress and their creation and expansion of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the causes of that problem. The stupid decisions leading up to the mortgage crisis have been underway for a couple of decades now, with pretty clear indications of the risks that were being introduced into the system and have now come to fruition. The best suggestion I have heard on this subject is to break up Fannie and Freddie and sell them in pieces to the private sector.</p>
<p>As to the woman you cite, I have no information about which to respond. Insurance is a contract into which parties enter. Contracts can be, and are, canceled all the time for all kinds of reasons. I&#8217;ll speculate, without really knowing, that she probably reached the maximum total expenditure covered under the contract, which would have been one of the clauses in the agreement into which she willingly entered when she was healthy. I&#8217;ll further speculate that she could have picked a different contract by paying a different premium.</p>
<p>Nowhere is it written that a business is forced to lose money in its contracts. </p>
<p>Our healthcare financing system is broken, I&#8217;ll give you that, but because of too much government, not too little.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Rautenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla Rautenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J: If you want to talk tyranny, let&#039;s talk paying in blood and cash for a war based on lies and a personal vendetta; folks who&#039;ve paid off their mortgages seeing the value of their homes plummet while foreclosures multiply and neighborhoods self-destruct all around them; a 50-year-old diagnosed with cancer whose health insurance is summarily canceled. C&#039;mon. I&#039;m gonna bet that people are smarter than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J: If you want to talk tyranny, let&#8217;s talk paying in blood and cash for a war based on lies and a personal vendetta; folks who&#8217;ve paid off their mortgages seeing the value of their homes plummet while foreclosures multiply and neighborhoods self-destruct all around them; a 50-year-old diagnosed with cancer whose health insurance is summarily canceled. C&#8217;mon. I&#8217;m gonna bet that people are smarter than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: J Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/obama-and-the-boomers/comment-page-1#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>J Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla and Tim, you must be traveling in a narrow circle, because many Boomers I know are scared to death that Obama is going to take away what they have been able to accumulate over a lifetime and give it to somebody else who didn&#039;t earn it, all the while couching it as something he is &quot;asking&quot; them to do, but which in fact is compelled. That&#039;s not far from tyranny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla and Tim, you must be traveling in a narrow circle, because many Boomers I know are scared to death that Obama is going to take away what they have been able to accumulate over a lifetime and give it to somebody else who didn&#8217;t earn it, all the while couching it as something he is &#8220;asking&#8221; them to do, but which in fact is compelled. That&#8217;s not far from tyranny.</p>
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		<title>By: TimFerris</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimFerris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tend to agree with Carla--I&#039;d question the accuracy of the source material, or the accuracy of the opinions--I don&#039;t think Lisa&#039;s supposition, or Cook&#039;s, hold up, from what I have seen and heard.

Most boomers know not to cooperate with polls, anyway. You don&#039;t give away your position. You don&#039;t tell people how you&#039;re going to vote. That&#039;s a private matter, not something to share broadly, or at all.

Somebody&#039;s trying to drive wedges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tend to agree with Carla&#8211;I&#8217;d question the accuracy of the source material, or the accuracy of the opinions&#8211;I don&#8217;t think Lisa&#8217;s supposition, or Cook&#8217;s, hold up, from what I have seen and heard.</p>
<p>Most boomers know not to cooperate with polls, anyway. You don&#8217;t give away your position. You don&#8217;t tell people how you&#8217;re going to vote. That&#8217;s a private matter, not something to share broadly, or at all.</p>
<p>Somebody&#8217;s trying to drive wedges.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Rautenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla Rautenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty amazed by these posts, since most of the Boomers I know are strongly, vocally, and in some cases even financially supporting Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty amazed by these posts, since most of the Boomers I know are strongly, vocally, and in some cases even financially supporting Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: lmcshane</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmcshane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Game theory.  At this point the games over--does it matter which team has the ball?  No.  But, I say, let the other team at least have the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game theory.  At this point the games over&#8211;does it matter which team has the ball?  No.  But, I say, let the other team at least have the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: J Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, there&#039;s nothing wrong with the rich--with everybody--paying taxes. A fair share, not a disproportionate share. Throughout the history of federal income taxes, since they were enacted under Woodrow Wilson, a bedrock principle of the tax system was that everybody, except the poorest, paid something. That way everybody had a stake in keeping tax rates modest.

What we now have is a system in which 50% of people pay nothing. They have no incentive to keep tax rates low. That&#039;s why they are prey to the class warfare of people who hate (envy, really) those who are doing well, and want to confiscate and redistribute their earnings to people who didn&#039;t earn them. That&#039;s just politicians buying votes with somebody else&#039;s money.

Realize that in any given year, the people who are earning the most are not necessarily &quot;the rich.&quot; They are the people who, through hard work, intelligence, education, and good fortune, are earning a lot that particular year so that they have something to put away for the future. Think of employees in high-tech companies cashing in stock options. These are the people we want to reward, not punish, for doing well.

The hereditary rich have their wealth locked up in trust funds and have expensive advisors showing them how to minimize their taxes. They are not the people who bear the brunt of increasing income tax rates, and they&#039;re seldom the people who are producing the entrepreneurial companies and jobs that drive economic growth. If you want to get at the rich, don&#039;t do it through annual income taxes, but through doing away with the tax-free status of trust funds.

The wealthy people I know (and I hope to become one of them) have no problem sharing their fortune with others. They do it by creating jobs, by granting employees stock options, and by making generous donations to college endowments, foundations, and charities. What they rightly object to is government confiscating their money and using it for purposes with which they don&#039;t agree.

The money people earn is their property. We all pay a portion of earnings for the privilege of living in this society, and to support necessary (and only necessary) public services. How would you feel if Congress passed a law that it could take the houses of wealthy people and give them to other people? That&#039;s exactly what a confiscatory and unequal tax system does, only with money instead of houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with the rich&#8211;with everybody&#8211;paying taxes. A fair share, not a disproportionate share. Throughout the history of federal income taxes, since they were enacted under Woodrow Wilson, a bedrock principle of the tax system was that everybody, except the poorest, paid something. That way everybody had a stake in keeping tax rates modest.</p>
<p>What we now have is a system in which 50% of people pay nothing. They have no incentive to keep tax rates low. That&#8217;s why they are prey to the class warfare of people who hate (envy, really) those who are doing well, and want to confiscate and redistribute their earnings to people who didn&#8217;t earn them. That&#8217;s just politicians buying votes with somebody else&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Realize that in any given year, the people who are earning the most are not necessarily &#8220;the rich.&#8221; They are the people who, through hard work, intelligence, education, and good fortune, are earning a lot that particular year so that they have something to put away for the future. Think of employees in high-tech companies cashing in stock options. These are the people we want to reward, not punish, for doing well.</p>
<p>The hereditary rich have their wealth locked up in trust funds and have expensive advisors showing them how to minimize their taxes. They are not the people who bear the brunt of increasing income tax rates, and they&#8217;re seldom the people who are producing the entrepreneurial companies and jobs that drive economic growth. If you want to get at the rich, don&#8217;t do it through annual income taxes, but through doing away with the tax-free status of trust funds.</p>
<p>The wealthy people I know (and I hope to become one of them) have no problem sharing their fortune with others. They do it by creating jobs, by granting employees stock options, and by making generous donations to college endowments, foundations, and charities. What they rightly object to is government confiscating their money and using it for purposes with which they don&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>The money people earn is their property. We all pay a portion of earnings for the privilege of living in this society, and to support necessary (and only necessary) public services. How would you feel if Congress passed a law that it could take the houses of wealthy people and give them to other people? That&#8217;s exactly what a confiscatory and unequal tax system does, only with money instead of houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J,

  What&#039;s so wrong with the rich paying taxes?  Without this country and without all of the less affluent working for them, they would have no money.  It&#039;s the least they can do (and many try lots of chicanery not to do it) to give to those who they stand on to be rich.  Profiting without giving in return is the primary characteristic of a parasite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J,</p>
<p>  What&#8217;s so wrong with the rich paying taxes?  Without this country and without all of the less affluent working for them, they would have no money.  It&#8217;s the least they can do (and many try lots of chicanery not to do it) to give to those who they stand on to be rich.  Profiting without giving in return is the primary characteristic of a parasite.</p>
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		<title>By: lmcshane</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmcshane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you add the share this option to your Optimistic Rebel posts?  Could you add the option to the BFD posts?  As far as the discussion here...let&#039;s just &quot;Stay the Course&quot; and other mindless rhetoric that will only sink the ship faster...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you add the share this option to your Optimistic Rebel posts?  Could you add the option to the BFD posts?  As far as the discussion here&#8230;let&#8217;s just &#8220;Stay the Course&#8221; and other mindless rhetoric that will only sink the ship faster&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not surprising to me that people vote their own interests. People in the 50-64 demographic are in their peak saving and earning years, are paying for kids in college, and are planning for retirement. Why should they support a candidate whose political philosophy--and voting record--are based on government taking hard-earned dollars from the people who earned them, and reallocating them by political whim to people who didn&#039;t earn them?

Take Obama&#039;s &quot;tax&quot; program. Anybody who actually researches income tax issues (instead of buying quasi-religious political slogans like &quot;tax cuts for the rich&quot;) should know that under President Bush, the percentage of income taxes paid by high earners is higher than at any time in recent history. Half of Americans pay NO federal income taxes at all. The other 50% of us pay ALL of federal income taxes. The top 5% of earners pay over half of all federal income taxes; that&#039;s right, 5% carry 50% of the burden.

Yet Obama&#039;s tax program would further increase that inequity, by creating what he calls &quot;refundable&quot; tax credits for people who pay no federal income taxes. &quot;Refundable&quot; means that at tax time, the government would write checks to those people. That&#039;s right. Government would take it from the most productive people--high earners--and give it to people who not only haven&#039;t earned it, but haven&#039;t paid ANY income taxes to begin with. That is not a tax credit, or rebate, or whatever propaganda slogan Obama wants to label it: that&#039;s wealth transfer or, more honestly, welfare.

Confronting that reality, it&#039;s no surprise that Boomers don&#039;t support the most left-leaning candidate put forth by the Democrat Party since George McGovern. It&#039;s amusing to me that Boomers--who argued for the enlargement of government and it&#039;s role in our lives--are now finding those chickens coming home to roost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not surprising to me that people vote their own interests. People in the 50-64 demographic are in their peak saving and earning years, are paying for kids in college, and are planning for retirement. Why should they support a candidate whose political philosophy&#8211;and voting record&#8211;are based on government taking hard-earned dollars from the people who earned them, and reallocating them by political whim to people who didn&#8217;t earn them?</p>
<p>Take Obama&#8217;s &#8220;tax&#8221; program. Anybody who actually researches income tax issues (instead of buying quasi-religious political slogans like &#8220;tax cuts for the rich&#8221;) should know that under President Bush, the percentage of income taxes paid by high earners is higher than at any time in recent history. Half of Americans pay NO federal income taxes at all. The other 50% of us pay ALL of federal income taxes. The top 5% of earners pay over half of all federal income taxes; that&#8217;s right, 5% carry 50% of the burden.</p>
<p>Yet Obama&#8217;s tax program would further increase that inequity, by creating what he calls &#8220;refundable&#8221; tax credits for people who pay no federal income taxes. &#8220;Refundable&#8221; means that at tax time, the government would write checks to those people. That&#8217;s right. Government would take it from the most productive people&#8211;high earners&#8211;and give it to people who not only haven&#8217;t earned it, but haven&#8217;t paid ANY income taxes to begin with. That is not a tax credit, or rebate, or whatever propaganda slogan Obama wants to label it: that&#8217;s wealth transfer or, more honestly, welfare.</p>
<p>Confronting that reality, it&#8217;s no surprise that Boomers don&#8217;t support the most left-leaning candidate put forth by the Democrat Party since George McGovern. It&#8217;s amusing to me that Boomers&#8211;who argued for the enlargement of government and it&#8217;s role in our lives&#8211;are now finding those chickens coming home to roost.</p>
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