Comments on: Joe Roman on 10K ideas http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas Locally owned and operated from Cleveland, OH since 2002 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:07:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: shelly http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1924 shelly Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:41:42 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1924 I've been to a few of these gatherings given by these same group of very bright individuals and they have been quite informative. However, I would like to see more follow-up sessions on previous issues rather than yet another new event/social gathering. I’ve been to a few of these gatherings given by these same group of very bright individuals and they have been quite informative. However, I would like to see more follow-up sessions on previous issues rather than yet another new event/social gathering.

]]> By: Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1920 Ed Morrison Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:20:51 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1920 George: My point, exactly. Visions are too often bumper stickers. But Cleveland already has a vision focused in a 2020 citywide plan available here: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/SummaryImp.php George:

My point, exactly. Visions are too often bumper stickers.

But Cleveland already has a vision focused in a 2020 citywide plan available here:
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/SummaryImp.php

]]> By: Carole Cohen http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1906 Carole Cohen Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:43:35 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1906 Personally I like the idea. My other thought is that if you have an idea and can get just a few people to work with you on that idea, and make enough effort and noise about it, good things could happen. Because I don't think we make noise anymore, at least not consistently. Our leaders are so NOT used to us advocating for anything that they will be bowled over by what we do and what we ask of them. This is my new strategy lol. Personally I like the idea. My other thought is that if you have an idea and can get just a few people to work with you on that idea, and make enough effort and noise about it, good things could happen. Because I don’t think we make noise anymore, at least not consistently. Our leaders are so NOT used to us advocating for anything that they will be bowled over by what we do and what we ask of them. This is my new strategy lol.

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1897 John Ettorre Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:52:56 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1897 Gosh, Amanda. Why would anyone who cares about civic affairs have any cause to be suspicious of the Greater Cleveland Partnership, or its predecessor, the Growth Association? Is it possible you're that naive about the hundreds (or perhaps thousands) of ways those groups have fueled public suspicions over the years? Gosh, Amanda. Why would anyone who cares about civic affairs have any cause to be suspicious of the Greater Cleveland Partnership, or its predecessor, the Growth Association? Is it possible you’re that naive about the hundreds (or perhaps thousands) of ways those groups have fueled public suspicions over the years?

]]> By: George Nemeth http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1893 George Nemeth Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:54:22 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1893 That isn't a vision, Ed, it's a bumper sticker. I don't know, Laura. Maybe we need to ask them. That isn’t a vision, Ed, it’s a bumper sticker.

I don’t know, Laura. Maybe we need to ask them.

]]> By: lmcshane http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1889 lmcshane Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:20:30 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1889 Private investment. With risk, we get rewards. How do we retain the vulnerable middle class stake in the city... and heartfelt energy for change? Stop pandering to millionaires. Well said--Michael. Private investment. With risk, we get rewards. How do we retain the vulnerable middle class stake in the city… and heartfelt energy for change? Stop pandering to millionaires. Well said–Michael.

]]> By: michael feigenbaum http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1885 michael feigenbaum Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:12:06 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1885 i throw my growl towel for action when will we finally talk it out enough then see some action. when miles kennedy had a vision for waterloo he put up his own money risked and lost but won a few too.look at waterloo and there is significant improvement from private investment.why do the pols need to use up the tax money for other millionaires ideas instead of directly to the needest areas. gateway, browns stadium,4th st. on and on it goes, but buckeye rd. st.clair,kinsman, fleet, we have to beg and beg to get crumbs of money for any projects. we need the rich suburbans who left the grit of city life behind to pony up some cheddar in copious amounts in all areas of this city. we need the leaders to actually lead not steal our hard earned money and heartfelt energy for change. i throw my growl towel for action
when will we finally talk it out enough then see some action. when miles kennedy had a vision for waterloo he put up his own money risked and lost but won a few too.look at waterloo and there is significant improvement from private investment.why do the pols need to use up the tax money for other millionaires ideas instead of directly to the needest areas. gateway, browns stadium,4th st. on and on it goes, but buckeye rd. st.clair,kinsman, fleet, we have to beg and beg to get crumbs of money for any projects. we need the rich suburbans who left the grit of city life behind to pony up some cheddar in copious amounts in all areas of this city. we need the leaders to actually lead not steal our hard earned money and heartfelt energy for change.

]]> By: lmcshane http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1884 lmcshane Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:33:58 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1884 I am with Mark on the feel good event. Here's a book recommendation: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/216937423 Read through. Discuss. Give up :) I am with Mark on the feel good event. Here’s a book recommendation:
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/216937423
Read through. Discuss. Give up :)

]]> By: Mark W. "Some Guy on Bridge" Schumann http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1883 Mark W. "Some Guy on Bridge" Schumann Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:54:46 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1883 Why should we listen to anyone who's involved in promoting the medical mart debacle? Speaking of things that are proven not to work. Let's recall that GCP was busted here on BFD for publishing and defending completely made-up revenue "projections" for the convention center. GCP has no credibility. My big idea, and you don't even need to go to the Galleria to hear it, is to cut out the fraudsters and manipulators. Why should we listen to anyone who’s involved in promoting the medical mart debacle? Speaking of things that are proven not to work. Let’s recall that GCP was busted here on BFD for publishing and defending completely made-up revenue “projections” for the convention center.

GCP has no credibility.

My big idea, and you don’t even need to go to the Galleria to hear it, is to cut out the fraudsters and manipulators.

]]> By: Ed Morrison http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas/comment-page-1#comment-1881 Ed Morrison Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:57:52 +0000 http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/joe-roman-on-10k-ideas#comment-1881 George: Articulating a vision is easy... <i>I see Cleveland as a Midwest oasis of culture and creativity.</i> That was pretty easy (took about 30 seconds). Now here is the hard part: Coming up with the strategic outcomes that move the vision into action. Now that's tough. You might look at Janesille, WI. Forward Janesville (similar to the GCP) just did a brainstorming session and come up with 400+ ideas about the future of Janesville. http://snurl.com/3fzu0 Now what? (Seen in another way, without strategic outcomes, visions can easily drift off to hallucinations.) George:

Articulating a vision is easy…

I see Cleveland as a Midwest oasis of culture and creativity.

That was pretty easy (took about 30 seconds).

Now here is the hard part: Coming up with the strategic outcomes that move the vision into action.

Now that’s tough.

You might look at Janesille, WI. Forward Janesville (similar to the GCP) just did a brainstorming session and come up with 400+ ideas about the future of Janesville.

http://snurl.com/3fzu0

Now what?

(Seen in another way, without strategic outcomes, visions can easily drift off to hallucinations.)

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