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		<title>By: Rob MacKay</title>
		<link>http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2008/a-modest-proposal-for-the-4th/comment-page-1#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob MacKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful ideas, Ed. Differences on the details are inevitable, but e-government can certainly introduce new efficiencies to the public sector just as e-business is doing in the private sector. Even the capability to renew my auto registrations online is a breath of fresh air and makes life a little easier, though I wonder if it has resulted in any improved efficiencies or reduced expenses within the registrar infrastructure.

The report on government costs in Ohio and Cuyahoga County is particularly fascinating. It is wonderful to find clear information like this. It would also be interesting to compare the number of counties in Ohio per capita. I wonder if any similar government efficiencies are achieved through scale in the Southern states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful ideas, Ed. Differences on the details are inevitable, but e-government can certainly introduce new efficiencies to the public sector just as e-business is doing in the private sector. Even the capability to renew my auto registrations online is a breath of fresh air and makes life a little easier, though I wonder if it has resulted in any improved efficiencies or reduced expenses within the registrar infrastructure.</p>
<p>The report on government costs in Ohio and Cuyahoga County is particularly fascinating. It is wonderful to find clear information like this. It would also be interesting to compare the number of counties in Ohio per capita. I wonder if any similar government efficiencies are achieved through scale in the Southern states.</p>
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		<title>By: TimFerris</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimFerris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people around these parts want to pay for consultants who give them the answers they want to hear; they don&#039;t want to hear how they&#039;ve just about totally killed the goose that lays the golden eggs. Dissonance in the party-line refrain is drowned out; dissidents are exiled.

That&#039;s why you&#039;re working elsewhere, and that&#039;s a good thing. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be back soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people around these parts want to pay for consultants who give them the answers they want to hear; they don&#8217;t want to hear how they&#8217;ve just about totally killed the goose that lays the golden eggs. Dissonance in the party-line refrain is drowned out; dissidents are exiled.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why you&#8217;re working elsewhere, and that&#8217;s a good thing. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be back soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim:

You have caught the spirit of the post. At the same time, I see this idea not as a confrontation, but as an opportunity to leverage our assets (like Lev Gonick&#039;s work with One Community) and develop new regional networks. 

The responsibility of leadership in today&#039;s economy is to prepare us (and our children) for a more complex, dynamic and uncertain world. 

How do we create a more agile region? Some answers are emerging. Innovation in government services is one of these answers. 

As the study I posted shows, we have a big opportunity to reduce the upward pressure on taxes by improving local government performance and effectiveness (and holding people accountable).  

There are some excellent models and even a handbook to guide local government innovation (The Reinventor&#039;s Fieldbook).

I&#039;ve participated in these efforts before, and I know it&#039;s possible to bring more responsiveness to local government through focused citizen engagement and stronger citizen networks. Now, in addition, we have Web 2.0 and new, more powerful tools of collaboration. 

A couple of weeks ago, I-Open and our partner the Edward Lowe Foundation conducted a three day workshop for regions from Illinois, Missouri, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Louisiana. 

Within our own region, we are seeing some impressive collaborations forming in Lorain, Akron and Youngstown. Cleveland and Cuyahoga County are slow moving, to be sure, but that can change. 

The question, of course, is whether enough people are tired of costly, patronage-driven sinecures, the incivility of leadership rants, the back room deals of &quot;fixers&quot;, incomprehensible and unaccountable &quot;strategies&quot;, and the propensity of our leadership to think that somehow, somewhere there&#039;s got to be a consultant with some answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim:</p>
<p>You have caught the spirit of the post. At the same time, I see this idea not as a confrontation, but as an opportunity to leverage our assets (like Lev Gonick&#8217;s work with One Community) and develop new regional networks. </p>
<p>The responsibility of leadership in today&#8217;s economy is to prepare us (and our children) for a more complex, dynamic and uncertain world. </p>
<p>How do we create a more agile region? Some answers are emerging. Innovation in government services is one of these answers. </p>
<p>As the study I posted shows, we have a big opportunity to reduce the upward pressure on taxes by improving local government performance and effectiveness (and holding people accountable).  </p>
<p>There are some excellent models and even a handbook to guide local government innovation (The Reinventor&#8217;s Fieldbook).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve participated in these efforts before, and I know it&#8217;s possible to bring more responsiveness to local government through focused citizen engagement and stronger citizen networks. Now, in addition, we have Web 2.0 and new, more powerful tools of collaboration. </p>
<p>A couple of weeks ago, I-Open and our partner the Edward Lowe Foundation conducted a three day workshop for regions from Illinois, Missouri, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Louisiana. </p>
<p>Within our own region, we are seeing some impressive collaborations forming in Lorain, Akron and Youngstown. Cleveland and Cuyahoga County are slow moving, to be sure, but that can change. </p>
<p>The question, of course, is whether enough people are tired of costly, patronage-driven sinecures, the incivility of leadership rants, the back room deals of &#8220;fixers&#8221;, incomprehensible and unaccountable &#8220;strategies&#8221;, and the propensity of our leadership to think that somehow, somewhere there&#8217;s got to be a consultant with some answers.</p>
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		<title>By: TimFerris</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimFerris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would imagine that your modest proposal would be as well received as Swift&#039;s (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) by the people presently in leadership positions around here; it&#039;s best that you&#039;re advocating doing an end-around, bypassing them entirely. Do you think they even know it&#039;s coming? Would they acknowledge it if they did? Will their arrogance allow them to see?

It seems to me that what you propose will result in a parallel world of governance, until the current one collapses of its own accord, and dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine that your modest proposal would be as well received as Swift&#8217;s (<a href="http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html" >http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html</a>) by the people presently in leadership positions around here; it&#8217;s best that you&#8217;re advocating doing an end-around, bypassing them entirely. Do you think they even know it&#8217;s coming? Would they acknowledge it if they did? Will their arrogance allow them to see?</p>
<p>It seems to me that what you propose will result in a parallel world of governance, until the current one collapses of its own accord, and dies.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bet. Thanks for the link to WorldCat. I&#039;m signing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet. Thanks for the link to WorldCat. I&#8217;m signing up.</p>
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		<title>By: lmcshane</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmcshane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already eat our children in NEO.  Ed, can you use http://www.worldcat.org, rather than Amazon.com?  Sign me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already eat our children in NEO.  Ed, can you use <a href="http://www.worldcat.org" >http://www.worldcat.org</a>, rather than Amazon.com?  Sign me up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: 

I put the link to the report at the end of the post. WordPress doesn&#039;t like links in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: </p>
<p>I put the link to the report at the end of the post. WordPress doesn&#8217;t like links in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: 

I implied in the post that these rules are evolving and that there are some challenges ahead. But the fact remains that in a networked world, our presumptions on information shift. Federal and state policy need to keep up in this fast evolving area. Why not think of this region as a laboratory for these new approaches?

On the issue of government overhead, I have been advocating this approach since my days at REI. I like the idea of headcounts. Several years ago, I did a report (which I presented Joe Roman and his assistant Dan? at the GCP) on the need for these type of measures.  Nothing much happened. You can download the report &lt;a href=&quot;//homepage.mac.com/edmorrison/edpro/Resources/CuyahogaCostsCompete.pdf”&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

At the same time, this metric is a good one for FFEF to follow in their &quot;government efficiency&quot; work.  

To Vince: 

Thanks for alerting me to the failed links. WordPress does some funky stuff sometimes with links, and I need to pay more attention to what I am doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: </p>
<p>I implied in the post that these rules are evolving and that there are some challenges ahead. But the fact remains that in a networked world, our presumptions on information shift. Federal and state policy need to keep up in this fast evolving area. Why not think of this region as a laboratory for these new approaches?</p>
<p>On the issue of government overhead, I have been advocating this approach since my days at REI. I like the idea of headcounts. Several years ago, I did a report (which I presented Joe Roman and his assistant Dan? at the GCP) on the need for these type of measures.  Nothing much happened. You can download the report <a href="//homepage.mac.com/edmorrison/edpro/Resources/CuyahogaCostsCompete.pdf”">here</a>.</p>
<p>At the same time, this metric is a good one for FFEF to follow in their &#8220;government efficiency&#8221; work.  </p>
<p>To Vince: </p>
<p>Thanks for alerting me to the failed links. WordPress does some funky stuff sometimes with links, and I need to pay more attention to what I am doing.</p>
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		<title>By: J Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, it all sounds good at this level, but the devil is always in the details. The open records thing, for instance, can interfere with certain activities. State entities invest in private equity and are required to maintain confidentiality in order to be admitted into those partnerships--as are all other partners. If the investment activities of those partnerships were subject to open records, state entities might not be invited into those investment opportunities, which would disadvantage state pensioners.

I&#039;m certain that there are many other aspects of government business that require specific approaches, rather than the blanket statement that &quot;more openness is better.&quot;

I&#039;ll also add to the discussion the concept that the total government burden on the regional economy, measured in dollars and cents, should be kept within a target zone as defined not by goverenment itself, not by politicians, and not by reference to spending levels of other government entities, but by me, you, and Brad Whitehead--or some other such group of citizens.

Finally, Kyle, the U.S. is a &quot;democratic republic,&quot; not a &quot;democracy,&quot; and thank God for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, it all sounds good at this level, but the devil is always in the details. The open records thing, for instance, can interfere with certain activities. State entities invest in private equity and are required to maintain confidentiality in order to be admitted into those partnerships&#8211;as are all other partners. If the investment activities of those partnerships were subject to open records, state entities might not be invited into those investment opportunities, which would disadvantage state pensioners.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain that there are many other aspects of government business that require specific approaches, rather than the blanket statement that &#8220;more openness is better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also add to the discussion the concept that the total government burden on the regional economy, measured in dollars and cents, should be kept within a target zone as defined not by goverenment itself, not by politicians, and not by reference to spending levels of other government entities, but by me, you, and Brad Whitehead&#8211;or some other such group of citizens.</p>
<p>Finally, Kyle, the U.S. is a &#8220;democratic republic,&#8221; not a &#8220;democracy,&#8221; and thank God for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle:

1. Network mapping: The quality of the relationships can be included. We&#039;re not talking about one map. Rather, we are talking about using maps to gain insights. See Valdis Krebs&#039; site &lt;a href=&quot;//orgnet.com”&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

2. The disenfranchisement issue is a red herring in my view. Today, over 80% of the world is covered by mobile networks. This connectivity gives rise to many new opportunities at the &quot;bottom of the pyramid&quot; (See Prahalad&#039;s book &lt;a href=&quot;//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_of_the_Pyramid”&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I-Open is working with &lt;a href=&quot;//www.sbcr.us/”&quot;&gt;Community Renewal&lt;/a&gt; in Louisiana which is pioneering network based models for inner city renewal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle:</p>
<p>1. Network mapping: The quality of the relationships can be included. We&#8217;re not talking about one map. Rather, we are talking about using maps to gain insights. See Valdis Krebs&#8217; site <a href="//orgnet.com”">here</a>. </p>
<p>2. The disenfranchisement issue is a red herring in my view. Today, over 80% of the world is covered by mobile networks. This connectivity gives rise to many new opportunities at the &#8220;bottom of the pyramid&#8221; (See Prahalad&#8217;s book <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_of_the_Pyramid”">here</a>.</p>
<p>I-Open is working with <a href="//www.sbcr.us/”">Community Renewal</a> in Louisiana which is pioneering network based models for inner city renewal.</p>
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